I would say that what we need, as I mentioned earlier, is collaboration, but also accountability in the system--accountability for railroads to perform and accountability for loaders and unloaders to perform--and a focus on what takes place being done in the most efficient manner.
If we get the cycle times down, we will have to reduce significantly the time it takes at the hand-off points: at the origin, when the car is being loaded, and at the destination, when the car is being unloaded.
If we move towards a pull-based system, as opposed to pushing, the way we have been doing it for too many years, we can get to a point where cycle times, instead of being the 18 or 19 days they are today, could conceivably come down to as low as 13 or 12 days. Because they would be much faster cycles, we would need to replace many fewer cars .