Yes, the second motion also fits in with our long-term policy. We've built in witness groups in November, but I'd like to make it a little more precise. I'd like to have the groups specifically representing producers from all the different areas to talk about what they feel are the causes of the problems and offer some solutions. It could be in the same meeting. They could be briefed ahead of time to come in with some causes and solutions, but we should hear from the stakeholders as we go through this process of developing long-term policy. That's why I wanted to introduce this motion. I'm prepared to modify the motion a bit to reflect what I've just said.
