To answer the first question, I have two examples. There was a producer in Middlesex County who took out the APP. He got his money. Two weeks later he got a CAIS cheque, but it went to pay off the APP.
The second story is about a young producer in Perth County, who was counting on the APP to provide additional credit to help him through the spring and then realized the bank was simply going to reduce his credit line.
That's why we call it “a cruel joke”.
With regard to liquidation, be assured that it is happening in this country more than the United States. It's starting in the U.S. as well. The issue for Canada is whether we want to continue to be a value-added export sector in the red meat industry and compete around the world. If that's the case, we need some help in this unusual normal low to adjust to the new world reality of this currency situation.
Stephen, do you want to add something?