I'll deal with the retail issue.
We had great difficulty in that we could not determine who was taking what portion of the wealth that we, as farmers, are producing. We know it's disappearing. Our graph shows that. There's no debate about that.
We would need this committee to bring both those sides, the packers and the retailers, before this committee and open the books and determine where it's going and if there's an unnecessary abuse there. As I pointed out, it can be two ways. Their size has made them so inefficient that they have to take a greater share, and if that's the case, one can make a good argument for breaking up the size. The other side of it is if their size allows them to take a greater share, there's also an argument there, because obviously this situation cannot continue. It impoverishes people at the local level.
To that piece, when you talked about a person who was producing broiler chickens in the United States, the industry moves to where it can do its maximum consolidation. In chicken, it takes everything, and the farmer becomes just a tenant who operates the facility. That has now happened in the pork industry in Manitoba.
In the cow-calf industry it can't work that way, so they capture where they can capture, and that's when it leads our farming into the feedlot system. They're capturing all of that. And through a captive supply system, they deal harshly with any of us who try to do our own little thing and feed some finished cattle.
I'll let you comment more on that, Grant.