Unfortunately, gentlemen, I only have five minutes, so maybe I'll move on to Mr. Brandle. Thank you, by the way.
Mr. Brandle, you mentioned that we'll lose a generation of apple farmers, and we need more innovation. Some of us were on a committee study last year where we went to the Okanagan in B.C. We talked to fruit growers. They told us that the reason we're losing a generation of farmers is that we don't have a market. We don't have a market because we're scrambling. We're doing all these new varieties. The Americans, however, are pumping money into their apple industry and throwing the apples across the border.
Our guys can't compete. It's as simple as that.
Last year, at the Federation of Agriculture banquet, I sat next to one of the directors. He's probably the largest broccoli producer in Ontario. He said that he has a good year when there's a drought in the States. He has a good year when they have a bad year.
Does trade enter this? How do we maintain access to markets for products like canola, and expand them, and at the same time protect those in the horticulture industry?