The other thing that I actually found fascinating is this. Mr. Allen is talking about there being victims of white-collar crime. We heard about how people laugh at our system and our consequences. Yesterday we had a vote where, thankfully for the Bloc, we actually had some support for what we're doing and where we're going, in terms of repercussions for white-collar crime. I certainly hope some of the opposition have been listening to this; there are victims and we need to have consequences and repercussions. That's a really important take-away from this particular conversation.
I will head toward a question. Most of our focus has been on low-hanging fruit. And we've heard from previous witnesses that a number of things have come together. We're now in a position to actually go after that low-hanging fruit in a much more aggressive way. The structure is getting into place, so we'll be tackling that low-hanging fruit.
Mr. Rosen, I really appreciate your comments around upstream and how we really need to also be looking at the source.
Was I hearing that there are lawyers all over this country helping people set up systems to help them evade taxes? Is that what I heard?