I'm not an expert when it comes to the softwood lumber agreement, but I can tell you the example I gave you and I can give you some other examples. We helped the Kenora Forest Products sawmill, which is a softwood lumber company. We worked with it to explore a new market in Japan for what's called stress rated lumber. It is still producing two-by-fours and two-by-sixes, but it's now found a market for a very particular niche product called stress rated lumber, and that relates to.... The more direct, the more clear the grain is in a piece of wood, the stronger it is. Of course, think about Japan and all of the activity that occurs there with respect to ground movement—
