I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.
Evidence of meeting #1 for Finance in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #1 for Finance in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
Conservative
Liberal
Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON
I said that I would not bring up points of order unless—
Conservative
Liberal
Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON
—the issues were important. The point of order was recognized.
Liberal
Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON
That's not true. The clerk has not started the roll call yet, nor has the chair read out the motion, so technically it hasn't begun.
Mr. Chair, a point of order right now is completely in order.
Liberal
Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll continue.
As a member of this committee, I do not believe—and I think my Liberal colleagues would echo my reservations—the points that Mr. Fraser and other Liberal members have brought up here have been dealt with. I understand that certain members in the opposition want to move towards a vote; it sounds as though they're unanimous in that on the opposition side. However, I still think we have not dealt with the matter that has been raised before the committee, which, as I stated in my remarks, based on what we find in House of Commons Procedure and Practice by Bosc and Gagnon, are questions that hinge on and relate to privilege—
Conservative
Liberal
Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON
This is not debate. These matters relate to privilege as well.
Mr. Chair, with all due respect, we have not dealt substantively and meaningfully with the issue at hand.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
What I can say on that is what both the clerk and I have indicated on the message, that the documents in evidence are on our public website and the link has been sent to members. You will have to determine whether that's adequate or not.
Liberal
Liberal
Liberal
Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON
Mr. Chair, perhaps it could offer some guidance to our decision-making and I suggest very humbly that we look at whether there's a precedent for this particular situation.
I'll turn it over to Ms. Dzerowicz.
Liberal
Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON
Mr. Chair, my point of order is that I think Mr. Fraser made some very good points in terms of there being some information on a memory stick and some information that was part of the link. I wonder whether it's possible to perhaps have the clerk address that specifically. If it's appropriate to be able to do so, I'd love to hear from her in terms of whether there are indeed different bits of information in different places. I do think what my colleague Mr. Fraser has raised is a very important question of privilege for all of us.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
I have a note. I think I did say ”on the public website”. The documents are on Our Commons website through the link that the clerk has sent.
Ms. Dzerowicz, do you want to rephrase your question to the clerk? I didn't quite get the context.
Liberal
Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON
Absolutely.
I'll probably just bring it to the point where we've raised a few things.
One is that I would like to know whether all of the information that was submitted, I believe the 5,600 pages, and the transmittal letters, as well as anything that was on memory sticks, is all provided to us as part of the information that was sent to us via a link within the last hour.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
Madam Clerk, I'm not sure again whether we're putting you on the spot.
Evelyn Lukyniuk
Only certain documents get posted on our website. Items such as correspondence usually would just stay in the clerk's office, but they are available for the public to consult. Any confidential documents would be circulated to MPs during one session and not posted on the websites.
Liberal
Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON
Specifically for the transmittal letters, because they are critical in terms of us understanding what was redacted, what was included, and why it was included or not included, would you be able to confirm whether the transmittal letters are actually part of the documents we have received?
