I think one of the concerns we've had, and I think it needs to be recognized, is that the new act has only been in place for four years. I think for the first two years DFO was trying to work out what it meant, so a lot of that created uncertainty for us. Also, obviously the staff workforce adjustment created even more uncertainty. There's a lot of that.
In terms of the actual “serious harm” itself, what we are finding is that the definition of it is being interpreted slightly differently in different areas. In some places it's being interpreted as all harm to all fish, because of the whole idea of an ecosystem-based approach. Where commercial, recreational, and aboriginal fisheries and fish that support those fisheries are taken into consideration, it really is all fish. However, not everyone is interpreting it that way, so it becomes very uncertain to us as to how to apply it.
With “death of fish”, it's the same idea as “serious harm”. What does “death of fish” mean? Is it death of a fish? Perhaps in the case of a species at risk, that is serious harm. Is it the death of 20 fish, 50 fish, etc.? Those things create uncertainty for us as to exactly what it means and what we should be doing to offset and manage it.