I don't want to talk about Barrick, because I'm not that company. They are a member of the organization, and I think that we have to work with them, because they are doing good things around the world.
I remember when I was young in Jonquière, Saguenay, my father used to say that the Americans were stealing our resources. That was what we were saying in Quebec. Well, do you think they still steal our resources? They don't, because we've learned how to do things. That's what the African countries are doing. They've been doing this in Tanzania, Rwanda, and DRC. They are renegotiating deals to make sure that they get their share. Were they abused? I'm sure they were abused. I'm not going to try to say that there was no abuse. But the lessons are learned very fast.
I can tell you that the members we have, including Barrick, are doing great stuff for the development of the economy. For example, in one project in Tanzania, they have a 200-kilometre water pipeline and at 10 different places they put in a pump system for the people of the village, who had no water before. It has nothing to do with the mine, but they did that.
So I think we can find horror stories. I guarantee that, Madam. But as you can see from this page here, we just published a book of 50 things that Canadian companies have done that any Canadian would think are great things that we should do.
Were they abused? Yes. Are there good things happening? Yes.
On the other hand, how much money should we spend in Africa? I think 0.7% is where we should reach. Maybe we cannot do it for the whole world, but I think that we should do it at least for Africa, because Africa is the last place where there are so many poor people, so many kids in danger, and so many women who are not well treated. That's where the jobs will be created. I think that the investment that Canada is making, $21 billion now, creates those jobs. So we need to train people, because they are our eyes and our friends.
I'll give you a small example. I was with the Chamber of Commerce of Senegal a month ago. In that room there was the Senegalese Chamber of Commerce and there was a Canadian. Who do you think was in the corner? It was our French representative, on loan, free of charge, to the chamber. Do you think that what we were trying to do with the chamber didn't go to Paris the day after? The same day it went to Paris. So let's not be boy scouts here. We have to work in a continent where competition is important and where Canadians are well received. They want us there. We have the technology, we have the people.
We're not going to export, Madam, locomotives and cement. Know-how is what we're going to export. That's what they like from the Quebec people, from the Montreal people, and so forth.
So as for the question of whether we do enough aid, my answer is no, and we should try to reach more in Africa than we do in other places.
