I discussed that with him, the outside of it, very briefly. I went down the road and I said “Look, I've got an issue over Fasken's relation to this Gillani thing that continues out.” He said, “You know what? I don't want to know.” I said, “Fair enough.” I said, “Just so you understand where some of this case and some of the other victims in this case are, it was a cookie cutter scheme.”