No, on management. That tended to be what we would actually get together on because we didn't want to argue about climate change or some other issue.
That's why I think bodies like the Institute of Public Administration of Canada and Public Policy Forum provide a really valuable place for people who work at different levels of government to come together to share ideas and to learn from each other.
One of my specific recommendations in the Globe and Mail article is to invest in that supply chain. We need a more robust supply chain.