The jail in Penetang was run by a private company for the first five years. They had eight teachers in the jail, and it was the most successful program. As I walked around the jail and watched people in classes and courses, some people were sitting with their feet up, and they were there to get out of their cells, etc., but in the classes with the teachers they were working. That was really important. I don't know what's happening now because the government has taken it over--and I make no political comment.
We recommend funding for three years. One of the jobs I end up doing is counselling the front-line workers, because every year you have to put in an application. I suggest you have more people out in the front lines looking at what's actually going on, instead of giving the money to the people who are best at filling in the forms. To really find out what's happening you need more people on the ground.
Thank you.