Yes, it's a different organization altogether. Personally, I've never dealt with them.
Just to go back to NALMA, with regard to its services provided across the country, I'll allude to what Albert was saying earlier. NALMA is a great entity because it serves every first nation in the whole country to the best of its capacity. A lot of training happens: a matrimonial real property act training, land-use planning. There's survey help and whatnot.
To allude to what he was talking about with regard to contacting all our old classmates whom we trained with all over the country, that's probably one of the greater aspects of the NALMA program. If it weren't for that, I wouldn't have friends across the country whom I could phone and ask how they went about leasing land to this entity here. The information is free-flowing. It's not being hoarded by each first nation. It's quite nice to see that they're open and honest about sharing their situations with other first nations, because—