My challenge to you is on the bureaucracy that implements what the government wishes to do. My challenge to you would be to listen to the people on the ground, both indigenous and non-indigenous, and listen to what they're trying to say.
What we had was a prescriptive document that said, “This is what it's going to look like, whether you like it or not.” There was a ruse that they were going to listen to what we had to say. Nothing was substantively changed in the document, which we wanted to change. I just challenge you to listen more closely to the people on the ground.
I'm going to pass the rest of my time, if there is any, to Mr. Schmale.