Thank you. It's interesting having another Mr. Lloyd at the committee.
Welcome, all members of the panel. Thank you for your presentations. My first question will be directed towards the art community, so Ms. Kinloch and Mr. Lloyd.
We've heard from other people, usually publishers and academics and authors, that the universities and libraries are using this 10% rule in order to deal with copyright. They can copy up to 10% without incurring fees. In the visual art world, which is what you deal with, how are they respecting copyright? Do they have a 10%? How would a 10% rule work, and how are they interacting with you?