In terms of time frame, I would say no more than three years. I would agree with Professor Dhir that we need to look at whether they have a stated diversity policy. Do they have board renewal mechanisms and what are they? What is the content of the explanations, if they're not complying? Then count progress. What's the year-over-year change? Count progress in each of the diverse groups that they are being asked to measure. Look at the change. Look at the progress.