Thanks.
I'm happy to get into this debate. I wanted to challenge the claim that Mr. Williams made in his remarks, which was I think solely based on an argument that's claiming the tribunal would slow things down, add bureaucracy and make things less efficient.
The way I'm reading it, and even in just what you responded to Mr. Vis, suggests to me that “deference” literally means that the evidence that was the result of an investigation by the OPC would be considered within the tribunal's work, whether it was an appeal or whether it was determining the right volume of an administrative monetary penalty.
Could you unpack that for us? How is this.... I get the perspective that the Conservatives and some others are bringing up here. I get it: We don't want to add bureaucracy and slow things down. That is not the intention. My understanding is the tribunal would actually speed things up.
I'll get to this after with a separate question, but I want to ask you about trust and administrative fairness and unpack that more. Let's just start with efficiency and eliminating bureaucracy, if you could unpack that for us.