Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
My question is to Steve Sullivan—and if there's time at all, I'll put another one to Mr. Piché.
We've heard testimony from victims today and throughout our hearings suggesting that mandatory minimums are necessary, and that this approach can be characterized as being tough on crime. Now, I understand when victims say this. It's almost counter-intuitive to say we should not have mandatory minimums. But my question is this. Is this being smart on crime? How do you respond to victims who say this with respect to mandatory minimums?