You're seeing people with conditional sentences involved in further offences. The reality of it is if someone shoots a firearm in the streets of Toronto and shoots somebody or is committing major levels of violence, such as carjacking or kicking in someone's door to steal their car keys, they're not going to do it if they're in custody. The reality is that it's swung to protecting the rights of the accused, and we're forgetting about the victims who are in the streets of Toronto.
I mentioned that we have an NDP mayor, Olivia Chow. She's talking about bail reform. If we're in the city of Toronto and she's talking about this, then the pendulum has swung and we need to do something about it.
I don't pretend to be a lawyer. There are probably lots of lawyers in the room. I don't pretend to be a lawyer and know every single section and what we need to do. We can follow up with everybody on some of our recommendations, but I know as a police officer representing 8,600 people, there needs to be some change. We've seen people out of custody on conditional sentences with ankle bracelets on for shootings and murders, only to continue to victimize the citizens of Toronto.