Okay.
Mr. Mosher, you made some comments about the health of the paper industry, at least in your operations. I'm wondering if you could expand on that for the pulp and paper industry in Canada as a whole. There seem to have been tough times in the last couple of decades. Could you comment on those who are doing well and those who aren't? It seems to me a very important part of that value chain; the pulp mill in my riding uses a lot of the materials that the sawmills create and don't have any other markets for.