I have just a short comment, Chair.
I'm not a regular member of this committee, but I was on this committee from 2015 to 2019, when I was first elected. Conservative Kevin Sorenson was the chair, and we had NDP member David Christopherson, who was a very active member of the committee. I fondly recall those four years, when the committee worked very well. In fact, in the entire four years, there was not a single dissenting report from any of us. We had a majority then, I should say, and it appears that things have changed now. That's all I wanted to say.
I'll say another thing, Chair. In fact, before our committee in 2015, the departments used to send different levels of officers to the committee, but we put our foot down and insisted that the deputy ministers themselves be available for every single meeting, and we enforced it. At our insistence on the Liberal side, we made sure that the deputy ministers appeared on behalf of the department.