Thank you very much for that, Commissioner. I think that's the most important lesson from this situation. It's that for the conflict of interest, regardless of whether one attempts to avoid accountability, the recusal portion of that admission is most critical in ensuring that the person, in this case, Ms. Verschuren, could understand directly that conflict. Isn't that correct? That recusal process, doing that, is the most important piece to understanding one's own conflict or perceived conflict. Is that correct?