Getting back to what you might hear as a minister, I can understand that your ministry was one of the larger ones and perhaps a little complex, but you had a deputy minister who was hearing from people like Mr. Noseworthy about things.
SDTC was, I would suggest, a very large and important project under your ministry. It wasn't some minor thing way down low. SDTC dealt with a lot of money and lot of important projects. I would say it was one of the flagship projects of your government in terms of trying to deal with climate challenges, one that you would be, I would hope, very proud of and that you would hear about from your deputy minister on a regular basis as to how all that was going.
Here we have an assistant deputy minister sitting in on the board meetings and hearing things that the Auditor General found concerning, yet your deputy minister never reported to you. I don't know how often you spoke to your deputy minister. I would hope it was on a daily basis, but you never heard anything regarding these issues from the deputy minister.