I do agree with that. Yesterday I saw two of those women. In fact, the woman who I mentioned would be another one of those women had she not been released earlier in the summer. And there are other women, as well, who I mentioned. So I'm very happy, if there's an opportunity, to provide more details about some of those women.
We have had a few cases we've been able to try to get close to court. And very positive for those women, their situations have changed, but there's always someone else who can come in and end up in that same position, unfortunately.
So yes, we need broader-based systemic change, which can be achieved by looking at some individual accountability mechanisms. The correctional investigator talked about getting rid of the management protocol, which is something this committee should look at as well. It's a super-max designation. The women in those categories are all aboriginal women right now, and they're women with significant mental health issues. So I think we need to be examining the interplay between the translation of needs into risk factors.
Also, looking at and examining Ashley's case, I have been told by people both within and outside of corrections who have examined her situation—not just within the federal sphere—that every single incident where she acted outwardly in a threatening way towards staff was something that was predictable and provoked, despite the official position as put forth. In fact, there were very real periods of time when there weren't outbreaks, but that's not what gets documented in files. Most of the files document everything negative that happens within the prison for an individual prisoner.
