Thank you, and thank you to both witnesses.
I'll start with Airini.
It's great to hear from someone with an obvious New Zealand background. My son and grandchildren live in New Zealand. It's a wonderful place. I read somewhere that you kayaked across Cook Strait, which to me is a frightening trip, even in a large ship. Kudos for that.
You mentioned that one of the band-aid solutions that has been tried is the “lift to base”. I'm just wondering if you could expand on that and explain why that isn't a long-term solution.