In the course of our travels, we've heard testimony from other witnesses. You touched on it, Marlene, with respect to these women who are victimized and living in extreme poverty.
Also, we're still hearing stories about the children being taken from their homes. Do you see this as a rather bizarre mutation of the residential school system, so that in about 25 or 30 years the government of the day will be issuing yet another apology, and that if we somehow don't change the way we look at and fund this, we're just not getting anywhere? Would that be fair? Would anyone like to comment?