I read that, but I think we have to go further, because you also talked about the issue of a buy-in. We can have all the meetings we want and that can happen, but how do we really encourage the buy-in? I think you suggest that there's a buy-in by some but not by all. I think you said that CP basically has a buy-in and that maybe CN doesn't have that same enthusiasm for a buy-in. If you don't have the buy-in at the top, you obviously won't get the buy-in much from the bottom, only because they haven't been encouraged to.
