As I said, as soon as you can have a customer enter into a development contract and a purchase order with your technology, you're very good. There is this gap between having the technology proven and having it demonstrated that seems to be a hole for an awful lot of companies. It's crossing the chasm here. We leave at bookshelf technology, and that graph won't get you a second meeting with a car company until you do this demonstration. Once they're engaged, then commercial support is quite available.