House of Commons Hansard #22 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was c-2.

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Sergei Magnitsky International Anti-Corruption and Human Rights Act First reading of Bill C-219. The bill, titled the Sergei Magnitsky international anti-corruption and human rights act, strengthens Canada's sanctions regime, amends acts to combat transnational repression, and revokes broadcasting licences from sanctioned regimes and those committing genocide. 600 words.

Charitable Organizations Members present petitions opposing finance committee recommendations to revoke charitable status for pro-life organizations and remove "advancement of religion" as a charitable purpose, citing concerns about free speech and religious freedom. 500 words.

Strong Borders Act Second reading of Bill C-2. The bill aims to strengthen border security, combat organized crime, fentanyl trafficking, and auto theft, and protect the immigration system. It proposes expanding law enforcement powers, including accessing private information and inspecting mail, and limiting cash transactions. Liberals defend these measures as necessary and Charter-compliant. Conservatives and NDP/Green members criticize the bill as government overreach, an attack on civil liberties, and for lacking essential bail reform. The Bloc cautiously supports it, emphasizing the need for more border staff and fair asylum seeker distribution. 56200 words, 7 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives criticize the government's doubled deficit and its impact on soaring food prices, which has led to a 400% increase in food bank use. They also question the $13-billion housing bureaucracy creating costly homes and the ballooning costs of the asylum system.
The Liberals focus on building the strongest economy in the G7 through generational investments. They address the cost of living by cutting taxes for 22 million Canadians, eliminating the consumer carbon tax, and lowering internet prices. They highlight efforts in affordable housing via "build Canada homes", reducing immigration targets, and supporting programs like dental care and the national school food program.
The Bloc criticizes the government's handling of US trade, citing the Prime Minister's disrespectful attitude towards the administration. They also condemn a partisan judicial appointment for a judge who opposes Quebec's laws despite lacking experience.
The NDP criticizes the government's use of Section 107 to end the Air Canada strike, calling it an attack on workers' rights and collective bargaining. They also raise concerns about parliamentary decorum and the removal of visitors protesting unpaid work from the gallery.
The Greens question a $24-billion federal contract to nuclear weapons partners, demanding a national security review.

Adjournment Debates

Youth unemployment rate Garnett Genuis highlights rising youth unemployment and blames Liberal policies, calling for a plan to reverse failures. Annie Koutrakis defends the Canada Summer Jobs program and other initiatives, arguing they equip youth with skills. Genuis argues that subsidies can't fix a bad economy.
Rising extortion in Canada Brad Vis raises the issue of rising extortion cases in Canada and accuses the Liberals of being soft on crime. Patricia Lattanzio acknowledges the growing problem, highlights existing penalties, and says the government is committed to tougher sentencing and investments in prevention and law enforcement.
Interprovincial trade barriers Philip Lawrence accuses the government of breaking its promise to eliminate interprovincial trade barriers by Canada Day, calling it a "bait-and-switch." Mike Kelloway defends the government's actions, citing the Free Trade and Labour Mobility in Canada Act and collaboration with provinces and territories.
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4:50 p.m.

Brampton North—Caledon Ontario

Liberal

Ruby Sahota LiberalSecretary of State (Combatting Crime)

Mr. Speaker, when I met with Commissioner Carrique this summer at the summit I was talking about, he pointed out to me that today, a letter under 500 grams that could contain something like fentanyl is not subject to a search warrant. This bill would allow it to be subject to a search warrant. I would remind the member across that 200 milligrams can be deadly to humans. We need to tackle the crisis of fentanyl in our country, and we need to give police the tools necessary to do so.

Would the member not agree that we need to provide our policing agencies with the tools necessary to fight fentanyl?

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4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Tamara Kronis Conservative Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Mr. Speaker, I live in a community that is deeply affected by the addictions crisis, and I share the government's desire to stop fentanyl in its tracks. We propose to treat fentanyl dealers as murderers. The government proposes to allow all Canadians' mail to be opened in the hope of finding things in it. I will leave it to Canadians watching this debate at home to decide which would be more effective.

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4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola, BC

Mr. Speaker, it is always a pleasure to rise on behalf of the people of Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola.

The minister just mentioned something when she asked my colleague a question about fentanyl. The Liberals talk about tackling fentanyl, yet under the Liberals, people who traffic fentanyl can serve their sentences at home. Guns and drugs go hand in hand, and with Bill C-5, the Liberals allowed people to serve their sentence on house arrest for drive-by shootings.

I wonder if my hon. colleague would agree with me that it is a bit rich for the Liberals to now want to tackle fentanyl through the mail with these measures when they will not get hard on the issues that are killing people today, the drugs and guns.

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4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Tamara Kronis Conservative Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Mr. Speaker, I echo my colleague's sentiments. I am not sure that I have an answer that would disagree with him.

With respect to fentanyl, I would like the government to act with a broad array of measures. I ran on a promise to bring our loved ones home drug-free. What I would really like to see the government do is commit to providing the funding that would allow us to provide the treatment and recovery beds we need in our ridings to do that.

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4:50 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the member could be clear on this point. Today, if I put a letter in the mailbox and there is fentanyl in it, Canada Post has a legal obligation to deliver that letter to wherever it is going in Canada. Let us say for the sake of argument that for a law enforcement agency to open that letter, it would require a warrant and it gets a warrant to open it. Does she, or the Conservative Party, support that principle?

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4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Tamara Kronis Conservative Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Mr. Speaker, of course I support the process that currently exists where law enforcement has to get warrants to search people's property, including their mail. To the extent that those in law enforcement have reasonable grounds to believe that a crime has been committed or is going to be committed, they already have the tools to do that in a court of law. I am not sure what the member thinks he is adding through this change.

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4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Jeremy Patzer Conservative Swift Current—Grasslands—Kindersley, SK

Mr. Speaker, the RCMP knows where thousands of these drug labs are across Canada, so I do not think it would be that hard of a process to get the warrant needed to search for products.

Does the member not agree that there are already measures in place that can be used? If the government had the will in the tone it is setting for how it treats drugs in this country, that would be of great help as well.

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September 16th, 2025 / 4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Tamara Kronis Conservative Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Mr. Speaker, regulatory search powers often overlap with law enforcement. This is a question of whether we inspect first and then get a warrant or we get a warrant and then inspect. The law as it stands is fine and clear.

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4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Sandra Cobena Conservative Newmarket—Aurora, ON

Mr. Speaker, in June, Canadians pleaded with the Liberal government to keep Parliament open and deliver real bail reform. Its members refused, and they went on vacation. While they were away, tragedy multiplied: A three-year-old girl was assaulted in her own bed, a boy was killed by a stray bullet as he slept in his mother's arms, a father was slain while defending his family and a grandmother was murdered for her car. Each story is a heartbreak. Each one is a question: Why was the Liberals' vacation more important than protecting Canadians from crime?

Now Parliament is finally back. It is day two, and what does the government put first? It is not violent crime, not unemployment, not the cost of living and not housing affordability. Instead, the Liberals rushed forward with a bill to let the state seize our mail without a warrant and to reach into our digital life unnecessarily and without oversight. However, when I walk the streets of Newmarket—Aurora, when I knock on doors, I do not hear calls for broader surveillance powers. I hear a mother in tears, telling me that she no longer feels safe in her own home. I read emails and take calls from neighbours who tell me, with desperation, that they no longer feel safe in their home, in their streets and in their country.

Canadians are asking, “Can I feed my family? Will my children ever be able to afford a home? Are our streets safe?” That is what weighs on the people's hearts, and yet the government answers with an omnibus bill that ignores their pleas and fiddles with their freedoms.

Violent crime is up 50%. Gang-related homicide is up 75%. Extortion is up 357%. Auto theft is up 46%. Crimes against children are up 119%. Every percentage point is not a number; it is a person, a life upended, a family scarred.

There are parts of the bill where we find common ground. We support tougher measures to combat fentanyl. We support expanding the sex offenders registry so police can prevent the most horrific crimes. We support stronger powers for law enforcement to stop predators and for the CBSA to stop money laundering and terrorist financing. These are urgent issues that could pass now, but the government went further. The Liberals bundled urgent, non-contentious issues with controversial ones that overreach.

Section 8 of our charter is clear: Canadians are protected against unlawful search and seizure. The protection must come before the state acts, not after. The private information of Canadians sent through the mail should never be handed to the government without a warrant. That would be a clear breach of confidentiality.

Let us think about what we entrust to the mail: mail-in ballots, confidential files and financial statements. Where is the line? Where is the respect for Canadians' civil liberties? When I hear of a government's screening mail, I do not think of a western democracy; I think of a place where the state controls and where people are afraid to speak their mind. That is not Canada, yet that is exactly what the bill proposes.

The reality is that criminals are savvy. They adapt, they shift, they change and they will. We have already seen cases of pigeons delivering drugs in B.C., and we know that the use of drones is rapidly growing. Criminals will find other ways, and what will be left behind? It will be ordinary Canadians with their liberties, civil liberties, stripped away, and their private letters, their ballots, their most personal information left open to the government's eyes, not through due process, not with a warrant but with a will.

That is not the Canada we know. That is not the Canada we should ever accept. The bill offers no real oversight, no safeguards and no consequences for abuse. Canadians know this: Once liberties are handed away, they are rarely returned.

There is something else tucked inside the bill, quiet but troubling: restrictions on the use of cash. For generations, cash has been more than a currency. It has been independence. It has been a safeguard for seniors who do not bank online; for small businesses that still trade hand to hand, predominantly in the retail sector; and for families who rely on it in times of emergency.

The Liberal government once froze Canadians' bank accounts. Now it moves to limit the cash in their pockets. That is not financial modernization; that is control. Cash is not the problem; criminals are. Canadians deserve to know why a government that cannot control its spending is so eager to control how Canadians spend.

Canadians deserve a Parliament that deals with real concerns: safe streets, affordable living and stable jobs, while preserving the liberties that define us. Conservatives will support practical, effective measures that protect families, that support stronger borders, tougher penalties and real action against fentanyl, but we will not support a government that uses fear as a cover for overreach and that buries necessary policy inside sweeping new powers.

Let us pass what unites us, let us set aside what divides us and let us spend the chamber's precious time on the things that Canadians are truly asking of us: safety, prosperity and freedom. That is where Conservatives will stand.

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5 p.m.

Brampton North—Caledon Ontario

Liberal

Ruby Sahota LiberalSecretary of State (Combatting Crime)

Mr. Speaker, I agree with the member that safety is paramount and of concern to Canadians. That is why the second bill we tabled in the current Parliament was Bill C-2. Bail reform and sentencing reforms are also upcoming this fall.

However, I would like to know whether the member is supportive of Bill C-2, as she did not reference it too much in her speech. I would love to know whether she is supportive of the extra measures and tools that we are giving our law enforcement. The bill was created from recommendations from officers who serve on the front lines.

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5 p.m.

Conservative

Sandra Cobena Conservative Newmarket—Aurora, ON

Mr. Speaker, I very clearly laid out my concerns with the bill, predominantly around the violation of civil liberties for Canadians and government overreach and its desire for control. That is what we do not agree with.

The reality is that criminals will adapt, and they will adapt quickly. They will change their methods. We have seen pigeons and drones. Left behind will be ordinary, law-abiding Canadians with their liberties violated. We will never support that.

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5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rhonda Kirkland Conservative Oshawa, ON

Mr. Speaker, I thank the member for this heartfelt, compassionate, thoughtful speech. I am proud to be part of a caucus that cares that our loved ones come home.

We talk about borders. A member who spoke previously talked about living in a border town. All day I have heard members on the opposite side telling us how proud they are that this is the most money ever promised to be spent on border security. They are so proud of that.

However, I have to ask, and I think the member can comfortably comment, why are we in the place we are right now, where we have to spend that kind of money now to try to fix the problem?

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5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Sandra Cobena Conservative Newmarket—Aurora, ON

Mr. Speaker, I agree with my colleague. I do not understand how government members can stand time and time again, applaud after their failures and say that they are actually trying to save Canadians from themselves.

I do want to mention that I knocked on thousands of doors in Newmarket—Aurora and heard the concerns of my constituents, which are around violent crime. If I were to go back to the mother who lost her child and say that we are finally back in session, for the 22nd day this entire year, and we are debating whether the government can search through her mail and whether it can control her cash, she would say, “Please listen to the people and their priorities. I am terrified in my own home. Clean up our streets.” Those are the priorities that Canadians have communicated.

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5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North—Caledon, ON

Mr. Speaker, adaptation is a concern of ours, and that is why, in the legislation, we must adapt. We are finding that more and more criminals are using our mail to mail pieces that put together firearms, and also to mail fentanyl, which is mailed in such small quantities. This was a loophole that was being used by many criminals.

Would the member not agree that we need to adapt and catch these criminals?

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5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Sandra Cobena Conservative Newmarket—Aurora, ON

Mr. Speaker, I spent 15 years in the financial sector, and I can say with full confidence that criminals will move way faster than the government can ever move, and what will be left over is ordinary, law-abiding Canadians with their civil liberties violated and a government that can go into anyone's mail without a warrant, just a will, and violate people's privacy. I do not support that.

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5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Mr. Speaker, the government was just talking about adapting for criminality. Should, perhaps, the government adapt to keeping prisoners in jail instead of releasing violent offenders immediately on bail?

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5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Sandra Cobena Conservative Newmarket—Aurora, ON

Mr. Speaker, I would have the same question for the Liberal government, which has failed to deliver real bail reform. I am glad that Conservatives have talked tough on crime. We have a member who is working on bail reform. I am very much looking forward to that, and I have been sharing that with people in my riding. I can tell members that they want a serious government to tackle violent crime.

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5:05 p.m.

Bloc

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Mr. Speaker, securing our borders is not a luxury. It is a matter of urgency. For a long time now, the Bloc Québécois has been calling for strong measures to combat the export of stolen vehicles, the increase in asylum claims, the fentanyl crisis and money laundering. However, the situation had to become critical before the government would think about taking any action. After nearly 10 years of complacency, now the government is acting like a pyromaniac firefighter. It did nothing to prevent the fires, and now it wants to rush in and pretend to be the saviour putting out the flames. Yes, some measures have been taken, such as closing Roxham Road, albeit too late, and some announcements have been made about tackling organized crime. However, let us be honest. It was never enough, and never sustainable. It was too often improvised, and more importantly, it was dictated by Washington.

The goal was clearly stated in the Speech from the Throne, specifically, to rebuild public trust in the immigration system and in border security. However, Bill C-2 falls very short of that. This bill seems to be designed less to reassure Quebeckers and Canadians and more to respond to pressure from the United States, in the midst of a tariff war where Donald Trump is using migration and fentanyl as a pretext for taking trade measures.

Members will recall the fiasco of Roxham Road. For years, Ottawa tolerated an irregular crossing that overwhelmed our services. Instead of fixing the problem quickly, it allowed the situation to escalate. The result is that Quebec paid the price but did not receive sufficient compensation. This is why we doubt the government's ability to keep its new promises. Yes, Bill C‑2 includes some useful measures, but it is important to bear in mind that, without additional staff on the ground, the border will remain porous.

Take customs, for example. Bill C‑2 will finally allow officers at the Canada Border Services Agency to demand facilities for inspecting goods intended for export. For too long, they have been telling us that they cannot open containers at the port of Montreal because they do not have the warrants and facilities to do so. This will be fixed, and it is a step forward.

What are people on the ground saying? The Customs and Immigration Union estimates that it would need another 2,000 to 3,000 officers to get the current job done. The government promised 1,000 new RCMP officers and 1,000 new CBSA officers. The Speech from the Throne did mention RCMP officers, but it did not mention CBSA officers at all. That is why the Bloc Québécois keeps raising this issue. Those officers have to actually be deployed. Without boots on the ground, the new measures will be meaningless.

It is the same issue with Canada Post. Bill C‑2 removes some of the legal barriers to mail inspection. However, in my riding of Rimouski—La Matapédia, for example, we already have problems with postal services. In some municipalities, mail is only delivered every other day. A recent staffing shortage even resulted in no mail delivery for several days. If workers are already stretched thin, how can they be expected to do more? These are the government's true colours: it offers promises but no resources, laws but no officers, and heavier workloads but no support.

Another important aspect of Bill C-2 has to do with immigration and asylum claims. Vigilance is essential. Bill C-2 gives the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship the power to override his own officials' decisions before a case is referred to the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada. In other words, the minister becomes both judge and jury. That gives one person too much power with not enough safeguards. Let us be clear. If the government wants to rebuild public trust, it needs to demonstrate transparency, predictability and respect for Quebec's jurisdictions. Once again, we have a government that is centralizing decision-making in Ottawa and giving the minister discretionary powers without any real checks and balances. That does not build trust; it destroys it. The Bloc Québécois will be clear: Quebec must continue to have its say on the number of refugees it can comfortably accommodate. We are already taking on more than our share compared to the other provinces. Ottawa should compensate Quebec instead of leaving it to bear this burden alone.

Certain provisions also raise legal questions. For example, the bill prevents the minister and the minister's staff from being compelled to appear before the Refugee Protection Division. Is that consistent with transparency and accountability? The committee will have to answer that question.

The bill also provides that affected individuals may apply for a pre-removal risk assessment. However, I should point out that several countries, such as Haiti, are subject to a moratorium. In those cases, the actual scope of this mechanism is limited. Even the government recognizes that the bill raises legal issues. The proof is that it put out a charter statement in an attempt to justify them. We are going to demand that every clause be examined through that lens.

Again, it is important to recognize that this bill is a step in the right direction. Clause 77 would allow for the cancellation of fraudulent student visas obtained on the basis of fake admission letters. In the wake of the recent scandals, urgent action was needed to protect honest students and the integrity of our universities. The new grounds for inadmissibility will prevent a phantom student who is not attending classes from filing an asylum claim after one year. This practice is abusive and it must stop.

Finally, the end of the 14‑day exception in the safe third country agreement closes a loophole that encouraged irregular crossings and fuelled human smuggling networks. The government is finally taking action, but it is doing so unilaterally, without renegotiating the agreement. As a result, those intercepted after 14 days will be returned to their country of origin, unless it is a moratorium country. Evidently, the problem has not been completely resolved. On that point, it almost seems as if the government has taken inspiration from our own agenda. However, I will give it the benefit of the doubt.

The Bloc Québécois will vote in favour of passing Bill C-2 at second reading. To be clear, this is not a carte blanche endorsement. In committee, we will demand a clear hiring plan for the CBSA and the RCMP, call for CBSA officers to be able to patrol between border crossings to provide operational depth without replacing the RCMP, set limits on the minister's new powers to prevent Ottawa from encroaching on Quebec's jurisdiction, create humanitarian exceptions, including through the pre-removal risk assessment mechanism, and demand fair compensation for Quebec, which is already taking in a disproportionate share of asylum seekers.

The government says it wants to rebuild public trust in the immigration system. However, the government cannot rebuild trust by taking ad hoc measures intended to appease Washington and defuse the threat of tariffs. The government cannot rebuild trust by repeating past fiascoes, such as Roxham Road. It can only rebuild trust by making its system solid, predictable, fair and respectful toward Quebec. Bill C‑2 is a step in the right direction. That said, without sufficient staff, without guardrails and without respect for Quebec, the legislation will be incomplete. The Bloc Québécois will do its job, which is to curb excesses, demand results and defend Quebeckers' interests. In short, our guiding principle is to protect the border without trampling on rights and to respect Quebec’s choices.

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5:15 p.m.

Brampton North—Caledon Ontario

Liberal

Ruby Sahota LiberalSecretary of State (Combatting Crime)

Mr. Speaker, I really appreciated the member's speech. It looks like the Bloc Québécois, or at least this member, is very supportive of Bill C-2 and this legislation. I think that is a good move. I understand that they are talking about delays in the process.

Are there any other examples the member would like to give as to how this would help combat crime in his community?

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5:15 p.m.

Bloc

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate my colleague's question, but I did say a lot in my speech.

In April, in the middle of the election campaign, the Prime Minister himself promised to hire 1,000 additional CBSA officers. Can my colleague tell us how many new officers have been hired to date, since her counterparts in the government are unable to tell us? It is rather confusing.

The same goes for the RCMP. There was talk of 1,000 new officers. How many officers have been hired so far? No one on the government side is able to answer that question.

If there is a plan and hiring is planned, I would like someone to tell us how many officers will be hired. This will reassure the opposition parties and, above all, the public.

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5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola, BC

Mr. Speaker, it is always a pleasure to rise on behalf of the people of Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola.

My colleague from the Liberals, the hon. secretary of state, asked about lowering crime in my hon. colleague's riding. I am just wondering whether my colleague shares the sentiment that the Liberals often state, which is that the Liberals have done enough to fight crime. Certainly, on this side of the House, we do not believe that. Does he share the Liberals' belief?

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5:15 p.m.

Bloc

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Mr. Speaker, I understand that the Conservative Party's guiding principle is law and order. However, law and order also happens at our borders.

It was the Conservative government, under Harper, that planned cuts to the Canada Border Services Agency. Now that the Conservatives are in opposition, they are telling us they want more staff. There should not be such a contradiction between what they are saying today and what they did in the past.

Quebec is inspiring in many ways. We have a different model of social reintegration than many other places in Canada. I think my colleague should also look into this and analyze this very specific situation regarding the kind of society that Quebec chose to create in the past and that is still an inspiration today.

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5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Mr. Speaker, I wonder if my colleague actually read the public accounts before making a statement that the Conservatives cut, because if he had, he would have seen the high point for several years was during the Harper years. In the first three years, the Liberals cut spending, labour and FTEs for the CBSA, which the member's party supported.

Would he like to clarify his statements?

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5:20 p.m.

Bloc

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Mr. Speaker, I like facts, and there is one fact that I will certainly be able to remind my colleague about. As we know, Quebec's motto is “Je me souviens”, or “I remember”.

The Harper Conservative government planned to cut CBSA staff at the border. That is mentioned in the 2015 report on plans and priorities.

I invite my colleague to check that report and simply send me a brief email saying whether it is false that the report called for cuts to CBSA staff at the border.

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5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for his comments. I appreciated his speech, which was well thought out.

Earlier, we were talking about the fact that we would like to take these discussions into committee so that we can move the bill forward and ensure that we are doing what Canadians have asked us to do.

I think my colleague agrees with us. Could he talk a bit about that?