Madam Speaker, let us have a serious conversation about gun crime. The Toronto Police Association says 90% of guns used in gun crimes are illegal guns. Are the Liberals going after those? No. They have come up with this $750-million politically motivated scam. Those are not my words, but the public safety minister's words. Do members know what else he said? He said, “Don't ask me to explain the logic” of it.
If we are going to have a real conversation, why are the Liberals not going after the criminals and the 90% of illegal guns that are making our communities unsafe? His job is to make our communities safe. He is failing, and he has admitted it is a scam. Why—

