House of Commons Hansard #23 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was c-2.

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Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives extensively question the Liberal deficit and economic stewardship, citing the Parliamentary Budget Officer on a higher deficit, stagnant wages, and rising food inflation impacting the cost of living. They propose a "three strikes" law to counter soft-on-crime policies and criticize declining housing starts under unsustainable immigration.
The Liberals promote their upcoming investment budget to build the strongest G7 economy, citing a reduced interest rate as a sign their plan is working. They address housing affordability, public safety with stricter bail, and achieving sustainable immigration. The party also commits to improving CRA services and protecting Canadian seniors.
The Bloc champions Quebec's right to invoke the notwithstanding clause for state secularism and French language, criticizing irregular judicial appointments and defending French as an official language. They also offer tributes to Ken Dryden, John McCallum, and Gail Shea.
The NDP demands serious action regarding the Gaza genocide, urging Canada to stop weapon sales and impose sanctions. They also pay tribute to former parliamentarians: Ken Dryden's legacy of universal child care and children's rights, John McCallum's compassionate immigration efforts, and Gail Shea's devoted public service and community support.
The Greens paid tribute to former parliamentarians. Elizabeth May lauded Ken Dryden's efforts for universal child care, John McCallum's intellect and kindness and help with immigration, and Gail Shea's trailblazing political career and dedication to public service.

Criminal Code First reading of Bill C-220. The bill aims to remove immigration status as a factor in sentencing, seeking to end a two-tier practice where non-citizens allegedly receive more lenient sentences for serious crimes. 100 words.

Corrections and Conditional Release Act First reading of Bill C-221. The bill amends the Corrections and Conditional Release Act to provide victims of crime with timely, accurate information on offender sentencing, parole eligibility, movements within the prison system, and ensures their participation at parole hearings. 300 words.

Petitions

Strong Borders Act Second reading of Bill C-2. The bill strengthens the asylum system and secures Canada's borders by modernizing customs, expanding the Coast Guard's mandate, and combating fentanyl and money laundering. Opposition parties raise concerns about potential infringements on privacy and civil liberties, including mail opening without warrants and cash transaction limits. They also highlight the lack of bail and sentencing reform for violent crimes, while some question the bill's constitutionality. 24500 words, 3 hours.

Adjournment Debates

Canola tariffs imposed by China Jeremy Patzer asks why the government isn't addressing Chinese tariffs on Canadian canola. Sophie Chatel responds that the government is engaged, and that risk management programs are available. Patzer says that AgriStability does not trigger when needed. Chatel responds that the programs need to fit the need.
Canadian food prices Greg McLean raises concerns about rising food costs and criticizes the government's spending policies. Karim Bardeesy responds by outlining government initiatives to stabilize food prices, promote competition in the grocery sector, and provide targeted support to those in need. McLean insists that the Liberals "get ahead" of the food inflation they are causing.
International doctor licensing Dan Mazier asks how many of the 800 international doctors who were granted permanent residency last year are now licensed to practice medicine. Maggie Chi discusses the need to integrate internationally educated health professionals, but does not answer Mazier's specific question about licensing.
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7:25 p.m.

Conservative

Ned Kuruc Conservative Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

Mr. Speaker, I know my colleague's heart is in the right place concerning the words I just spoke. I have also talked to the chief of police and other police officers, and they are calling for bail reform.

Specifically to Bill C-2, I am here to touch on things that I believe should be included. Through my discussions with Hamilton police, I know they believe that the bail system is broken. In the spirit of collaboration, we do agree on part 1, part 2 and part 3, and hopefully as this moves along, we can collaborate on other parts. I hope that the Liberals can see my concerns and consider them in the spirit of good faith.

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7:25 p.m.

Bloc

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Mr. Speaker, we can all agree that this is a rather lengthy bill. It is no less than 130 pages long and affects around 15 acts and a number of departments. We are going to have to do an extremely thorough job.

There is one thing I have not heard my Conservative friends talk about as much. My colleague could surely enlighten me on their concerns, their understanding or their position when it comes to parts 6 to 9 of Bill C‑2, the parts regarding immigration laws. I would like to know the Conservative Party's position on the immigration aspect of Bill C‑2.

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7:25 p.m.

Conservative

Ned Kuruc Conservative Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

Mr. Speaker, yes, it is a thick bill, and it will be moved along. As I have said, we do agree with some parts of the bill.

Specifically, we have some issues with part 6 and part 9 that will hopefully be hashed out in committee, but again, I want to revert back to fentanyl, bail reform and gun crime. These are specific to me and my riding of Hamilton, and I would love to see these incorporated into Bill C-2 in some way as we move along. As some colleagues on the other side said, we need to work together, so hopefully they will take my words in good faith and co-operation and input them as this bill moves along.

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7:25 p.m.

Conservative

Rhonda Kirkland Conservative Oshawa, ON

Mr. Speaker, the member touches on something that is very close to my heart as well, and that is bail reform. We keep hearing members opposite saying that it is coming and it is pending. It has been six and a half years since they presented bail reform in Bill C-75, and my colleague mentioned it rewrote the rules so that judges are instructed to let offenders out at the earliest opportunity and under the least onerous conditions.

This was a deliberate Liberal policy. It was not an accident. They deliberately wrote that in the bill, and for six and a half years, people have died and women have been raped and abused. This has happened over and over again in six and a half years. The Liberals are accountable for it.

What does the member have to say about that?

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7:30 p.m.

Conservative

Ned Kuruc Conservative Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

Mr. Speaker, I would like to repeat part of my speech: Bill C-75 requires judges to prioritize releasing an accused person at the earliest opportunity and on the least onerous conditions.

Clearly, after 10 years, the Liberals must realize that bail reform is needed. They must be listening to their constituents. That is why I bring this up, so it can be added to Bill C-2, because we have been talking about it for years. It needs to be repealed for the safety of everyone and all Canadians. Again, in good faith and working together on what is best for Canada, I hope that the Liberals—

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7:30 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

I do have to interrupt the member. The time for questions and comments has expired.

Resuming debate, the hon. member for Winnipeg Centre.

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7:30 p.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Mr. Speaker, I have to say, it is highly disturbing that I am again obliged to call out the government's glaring violations of Canada's Constitution, including international covenants to which Canada is a signatory, in Bill C-2, the so-called strong borders act.

This is the second occasion where the Liberals have presented a piece of legislation that would provide government with sweeping executive powers. In fact just before summer adjournment, the NDP had to hold the Liberals accountable for how Bill C-5 undermines the Constitution.

Now we are here today debating Bill C-2, a bill that would disregard constitutionally enshrined rights, undermine civil liberties, criminalize migrants and asylum seekers, and bypass Parliament and public debate. Who are the Liberals targeting? They are targeting marginalized communities.

Just like Bill C-5, Bill C-2 is an omnibus bill. It is vague and dangerous. The NDP is once again calling out an undemocratic power grab.

It is clear that the measures are meant to appease Trump, which is the opposite of what the current Prime Minister campaigned on. Do not just take it from me; the Minister of Public Safety said the Liberals carefully crafted Bill C-2 to address Trump's “irritants”, lifting up disinformation that Canada is causing America's fentanyl crisis, appointing a fentanyl czar and enacting draconian border policies that terrorize migrants and refugees and result in the detaining of citizens. That is the American administration the current Prime Minister is lifting up.

According to the Migrant Rights Network:

[the Prime Minister] campaigned on being different from Donald Trump, yet his very first bill is a shameful capitulation to racism and xenophobia, which abandons Canada’s legal and moral obligations to refugees and migrants. We’re witnessing the deliberate expansion of a mass deportation machine designed to tear apart families and communities.

It is shameful.

I have to question the Prime Minister and the Liberal government. Are they going to keep undermining rights to appease a president who has demonstrated that he is erratic, or are they committed to upholding human rights? Are they, along with the Conservatives, going to keep entertaining the lie that immigrants are driving the housing crisis, when the real blame lies with landlords and profit corporations? As we have seen from extremist anti-immigrant and anti-migrant riots in Toronto, entertaining this violent rhetoric is no way to build a unified country.

This week, the Prime Minister called Trump a “modern man”, indicating he texts him regularly. Are we going to pretend that this “modern man” is a reasonable partner in protecting democracy, when he is using his ICE police force, the National Guard and the army to terrorize people, his very own citizens, as well as visitors, including Canadian citizens?

The bill goes beyond what the Liberals have tried to convince people across Canada it is, a bill to protect our borders. In fact, it would result in violating civil liberties and violating rights to privacy. In fact, through the legislation, the Liberals would be ushering in sweeping surveillance powers for police, intelligence and even vaguely defined “public officers” to enforce upon anyone in Canada.

In fact, if the bill is passed, these actors can, without a warrant, demand people's personal information from doctors, banks and landlords; track their locations, associations and service usage; open their Canada Post mail; and share their data with foreign governments such as the United States government. This is a violation of the right to privacy, a charter right that has been affirmed and upheld by the Supreme Court as an essential part of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

According to a letter sent to the government by 39 civil liberties and human rights groups, and 122 lawyers, Bill C-2 “is a multi-pronged assault on the basic human rights and freedoms Canada holds dear. It is likely unconstitutional, and deeply out of step with the values Canadians expect our government to embody and respect.”

This violation of privacy will be felt the most by those who are already the most impacted by oppressive systems: women, gender-diverse folks and the 2SLGBTQQIA+ community. Several organizations representing women and gender-diverse people, including Action Canada, have condemned the bill for allowing a range of powers for law enforcement to access private medical records on abortion history without a warrant, violating the charter-protected right to privacy that people throughout Canada possess with regard to health care services.

Even worse, Bill C-2 includes provisions for intelligence sharing with other countries, including the United States, which would allow authorities from jurisdictions where abortion or gender-affirming care is banned to find out whether a person has obtained these services in Canada. What happens when somebody comes from the United States, where some practices have been made illegal? Does Canada want to be involved in jailing people for exercising their human rights?

This legislation lacks a gender-based analysis. That has been made clear, full stop. It even fails to acknowledge the reality of survivors of gender-based violence. According to Action Canada, “Survivors fleeing gender-based violence abroad are learning about legal processes while living with profound trauma, often under the control of abusive partners who restrict their access to information and support. Imposing strict time limits on these most marginalized refugees”, for example, “ignores Canada's commitments to gender equality and safety.” That also applies to people fleeing intimate partner violence in Canada.

Under Bill C-2, a survivor of violence can be endangered if their abuser or abusive partner, for example, is a member of law enforcement who, without a warrant, is capable of accessing information on their whereabouts and the services they use. However, we should not be surprised if the Prime Minister seems oblivious to the issue of gender-based violence; he plans to cut funding for women and gender equality by 81%, even though several municipalities have declared gender-based violence an epidemic.

I would be remiss if I did not add that Bill C-2 further advances the Liberals' attacks on those who oppose the government agenda, such as land defenders and workers. In fact, just last month, the Liberal government abused its power and its use of section 107 of the Canada Labour Code to violate the right to strike. As the Canadian Union of Public Employees has stated in regard to Bill C-2, “Trade unionists and activists know how surveillance can be used in attempts to limit labour and social movement fights for justice.”

The NDP will not stand for these infringements on our privacy and human rights. The NDP is calling for the bill to be withdrawn in its entirety. Let us not fall into the trap of undermining our Constitution, our human rights and the rule of law.

I am urging the Liberal government to withdraw this harmful bill and to put forward something that upholds human rights and truly ensures that people can live in security and safety.

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7:40 p.m.

Liberal

John-Paul Danko Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON

Mr. Speaker, I do appreciate the member opposite bringing forward some of the troubling authoritarian tendencies in the U.S. It is an important issue, but I am trying to figure out where the NDP actually stands on law enforcement and public safety. In Hamilton, NDP activists not only want to defund the police, they want to abolish the police altogether. They are in favour of illegal encampments in city parks, and they want to actually legalize all drugs, including fentanyl, cocaine and methamphetamines.

Why is the NDP consistently opposed to law enforcement and public safety as their benchmark reflex?

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7:40 p.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Mr. Speaker, I think the hon. member should join the Conservative Party. That is a lot of sound bites. The reality is that what the NDP opposes is the violation of constitutional rights, the violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the putting forward of a bill that impacts particularly women fleeing violence without a gender-based lens. This has been highly criticized by over 122 lawyers, as well as civil liberties organizations. This is not pie-in-the-sky stuff. This is another example of the Liberal government trying to give itself sweeping powers to violate constitutionally enshrined rights.

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7:40 p.m.

Conservative

Grant Jackson Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

Mr. Speaker, to my fellow colleague from Manitoba, her riding of Winnipeg Centre is certainly facing the brunt of the fentanyl crisis. I used to drive through her constituency to get to work at the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba. I think we know, or it is universally accepted, that a lot of these drugs are coming into Canada across the border. That is under discussion here.

If the member from the NDP thinks that the bill should be completely withdrawn, does she have any solutions as to how to deal with the crisis of drugs coming across our border, or is she content to just let that continue?

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7:40 p.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Mr. Speaker, we know, even from what has happened in the States, that tough-on-crime approaches to drugs do not work. We have seen that. What our community organizations are calling for on the front lines of this issue is to deal with the toxic drug supply. We have a record number of overdoses in our community. I am not into political responses that have resulted in people dying in the streets that I represent. I am into public health responses. I am going to listen to the experts, not to politicians with a bunch of really good sound bites.

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7:45 p.m.

Bloc

Simon-Pierre Savard-Tremblay Bloc Saint-Hyacinthe—Bagot—Acton, QC

Mr. Speaker, I am going to pick up where my colleague's response left off, when she mentioned the need to listen to the experts. I liked her speech. As I understand it, however, the New Democrats are going to vote against the bill. We are going to vote for it, but with the aim of dissecting it in committee. We will listen to the experts and the affected groups. Then, if necessary, we will vote against the bill or try to amend it. That may be where our positions on this matter diverge.

That said, is my colleague not concerned that the Liberals are trying to introduce an overly fast-tracked procedure that would stop us from doing our job and scrutinizing this bill?

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7:45 p.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Mr. Speaker, absolutely, we saw that with Bill C-5, certainly. With Bill C-2, they are not really getting members up to speak. This is a far-reaching bill. This is an omnibus bill that is over 132 pages. Where are the Liberals? The same people are here talking about the bill. We are talking about a bill that violates civil liberties, constitutional rights and international law. Yes, migrants and asylum seekers have human rights that are protected under international law. We have an obligation, as members of Parliament, to uphold the rule of law. The bill does not cut it. We are voting against it.

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7:45 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to rise on Bill C-2. I have been here almost 10 years, long enough to remember the Liberals in 2015 and their campaign promise of no more omnibus bills. Obviously, that promise, along with so many others, has been broken.

This is another example of an omnibus bill, with the government trying to squish everything into one large bill and jam it through Parliament despite very valid concerns expressed by quite a few people in the House today. They have tried to paint Conservative, Bloc and NDP members as not co-operative if we disagree with one part of this massive omnibus bill.

Bill C-2 reminds me, like many other government bills, of Seinfeld. This one specifically reminds me of a Seinfeld episode where they did a play on the “Son of Sam”, David Berkowitz, except it was Newman, the post office man, playing the criminal. I think it was about killing his neighbour's dog. When Jerry and Elaine catch him, he asks what took them so long. That is the question I have for the Liberals. What took them so long?

We have had crime issues, border issues and immigration issues for 10 years, not just since the new government. It is not a new government. It is the same old, tired, corrupt, incompetent Liberal government that has been running things for the last nine and a half years. It is the same people who have been in charge for all these years and have done nothing.

Bill C-2 talks about finally bringing in controls over precursors coming in from mainland China, which are being used for fentanyl. It is not legislation yet; only now are the Liberals talking about it in a bill after almost 10 years. They are talking about strengthening the border, again after 10 years. They are talking about crime. We on this side have been bludgeoning the government over crime.

We heard earlier today my colleague from Lethbridge, in tears, going over a horrific crime inflicted on a Canadian, and the government says, “Just wait a bit longer. Didn't you hear? We're going going to bring in bail reform.” It brought in bail reform I think a year or two ago with Bill C-48, which did nothing. However, now it is promising this again because it is a new government, not the old government. The new government will fix things, maybe.

As for money laundering, if we read Sam Cooper's book, it is about $128 billion a year in this country. I cannot talk about this year's budget because we will not see it, but in last year's budget, I think it was about $450 billion. If we think about that, money laundering is almost 30% of the value of our tax haul, and the government has done nothing for 10 years. I do recall that Sam Cooper's book identified several Liberals with their fingers in the till earning money off of money laundering, including one of their former MPs, who was linked to money laundering. Again, as Newman says to Seinfeld, what took so long?

When we ask this of the Liberals, they stand up and say Harper cut from CBSA.

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7:45 p.m.

Conservative

Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola, BC

Lamoureux never says that.

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7:45 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

I know; we would think that, but I actually brought receipts.

Mr. Speaker, this is just in the last couple of years. The Prime Minister, eight different ministers and six different parliamentary secretaries have stood here in this House and said this is about the Harper cuts. Members can see how many pages I have. Most of it is said by the member for Winnipeg North. I am just going to read from them; they are not a prop. According to him, Harper cut a thousand jobs. Jennifer O'Connell, who is no longer with us thankfully, repeatedly said Harper cut 1,000 jobs and cut $400 million.

Let us just put that to rest once and for all. I am going to quote numbers from the government's own Treasury Board site. I brought this up before, and the member for Winnipeg North said they were just statistics and they do not count, that what counts is what they say on that side. This is from the government's own websites: GC InfoBase, the Library of Parliament and the Treasury Board.

On full-time equivalents to CBSA, when the Liberals took over from big, bad Harper, there were 14,113 full-time equivalents with the CBSA. Two years later, under the Liberals, there were 13,707 full-time equivalents, so where was the cut? The cut was not under Harper. The cut was under the Trudeau Liberals.

On spending for CBSA, we saw, as I said, eight different ministers, including the former minister in charge of CBSA, who is now doing the free trade attempt with the U.S., stating that $400 million was cut by Harper. Well, in 2012-13, spending was $1.7 billion. The next year it was went up, under Harper, to 8.3%. The year after that, it went up 8.16%. Then the Liberals took over and what happened? The spending dropped 11% on the CBSA. Again, these are the government's own numbers. I know the Liberals are saying, “There are lies, damn lies, statistics and Treasury Board numbers,” but this is from the public accounts, from the Treasury Board. In 2016 and 2017, another full year into their mandate, it had dropped 18% from the Harper era.

Let us look forward. I quoted earlier Trudeau's election promise to end the omnibus bills. Let us look at the government promise from the last election. It reads:

Canadians deserve to feel safe where they live, play, work.... My government will hire thousands of new RCMP and CBSA officers to crack down on illegal drugs and guns coming from the United States, increase funding to prosecute violent criminal gangs [and let them out later], make bail laws stricter for home invasions....

Apparently, that is for those who fight back against home invaders.

Later, it reads, “Recruit 1,000 more RCMP personnel to tackle drug and human trafficking”.

What do the Liberal numbers show?

This is from the departmental plans, for those who follow the estimates process, which I think is one of us. Departmental plans forecast spending requirements as approved by the government three years forward, but also lays out the goals and priorities that justify spending to be approved by Parliament, should there ever be a budget.

Now, our current full-time equivalents is 31,743 for the RCMP, so a thousand more would be 32,743, but under Liberal math, planned full-time equivalents drops over the next couple years to 33,000. Next year it is going to be 33,076, and if we add 1,000, it goes to 33,632. Where is the rest of the thousand they promised?

For CBSA, it says, “Train 1,000 new CBSA officers”. Next year, the Liberals plan 17,289 dropping to 16,615 CBSA officers. Again, do not take my word for it. The Minister of Public Safety and the new member of Parliament for Edmonton Centre, who replaced the scandalous other Randy, signed off on it. This is their departmental plans. These are their numbers.

Spending for CBSA is due to drop from $3.1 billion this year, dropping $200 million, so when we add in all the Liberal inflation, it is still dropping $200 million.

I asked earlier what took the Liberals so long, but I have to ask why they are pushing forward this fantasy world to Canadians. Why are they continuing with this bait and switch where they promise they are going to do this and then deliver that? It is another example of them believing, “Hey we announced it, and therefore, it is done.” Well, they announced more for the RCMP, but their own numbers show they are going to drop. They announced more for CBSA, but their own numbers show a drop. They have announced repeatedly that they are going to do something about crime, and the reality shows the other way.

We on this side do not believe anything the government is putting forward, and its own facts prove that.

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7:55 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I give the member opposite credit. He has consistently argued that point, but at the end of the day, the reality is different from the images the member tries to portray. We know Stephen Harper did cut, and it is within his own Harper budget. Yes, the current leader of the Conservative Party was part of that cut to Canada border control.

The member might be able to convince members of his own Conservative caucus, but the reality is those individuals who are in the workforce in CBSA, as well as others outside the Conservative caucus, recognize that Stephen Harper was not a friend when it came to beefing up border controls.

This Prime Minister, who made a commitment in the last election, made it very clear that we are going to beef it up, not only budget-wise, but legislatively, and that is why we have Bill C-2.

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7:55 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Mr. Speaker, the emperor has no clothes, clearly.

These are the government's own numbers. These are not my numbers. These are not Conservative numbers. These are the numbers of the current Liberal government. The Treasury Board posts these numbers.

I would encourage the member opposite to, instead of spending all his time in this House spewing misinformation, maybe take a few minutes outside the House and look at the facts. The government cut CBSA dollars. It cut CBSA full-time equivalents. Its own documents, signed by the Minister of Public Safety, say that for the next three years it is going to continue to do—

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7:55 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Questions and comments, the hon. member for Repentigny.

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7:55 p.m.

Bloc

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

Mr. Speaker, could my hon. colleague share with us his understanding of why, after more than 10 years in power, the Liberals are only now presenting us with Bill C‑2, a bill will require a great deal of work in committee, because it clearly has major shortcomings?

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7:55 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Mr. Speaker, it is odd that it has taken the government 10 years to bring it forward. I just do not believe it is serious about the challenges facing Canadians. I am going to refer again to the minister's own departmental plan, Public Safety Canada's departmental plan, which mentions opioids and fentanyl just once.

When we look at the priorities, it reads, “we will continue to ensure the legitimate movement of goods and persons across the world’s longest shared border”. It goes on, but it only mentions opioids once. The previous year, it was twice. In fact, in the last five years combined, it was mentioned fewer than 10 times.

However, it mentions the United Nations' desire to enforce its climate control issues on Canada. The government does not care about the issues facing Canadians, it cares about its own ideology first.

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8 p.m.

Conservative

Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola, BC

Mr. Speaker, it is always a pleasure to rise on behalf of the people of Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola. It is so great to be here in the House of Commons every day, but when we have the member from Edmonton closing it up Tom Henke style tonight, I just cannot help but commend him for not only his impassioned speech, but the truth that reigns supreme.

It was like a deluge of truth that fell on this House of Commons. If only the Liberals would listen to my hon. colleague when he provides them with numbers. In fact, I know we are getting to the end of the night, but his speech was so good that I would seek unanimous consent for him to continue until 8:02 p.m.

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8 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

I will assume that the member is saying that in jest, because his time will take us to 8:02 p.m.

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8 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Mr. Speaker, my colleague has done fantastic work on Bill C-2.

As I mentioned, and as I have said on this side, there are a lot of issues that we can support in this bill. Unfortunately, Liberals pushed it all into an omnibus bill. What they like to do is push it all together, throw in a couple of poison pills, and if someone does not like it, then obviously they are working against Canada.

I do want to bring up a very important issue. We hear about crime a lot and the need to reform our bail system. We are coming up to just over the two-year anniversary of a horrible murder in Edmonton. Carolann Robillard and her daughter, Jayden Miller, were murdered by a man who was released on bail 18 days earlier, for assaulting a young person at a bus stop. He had previously been out on bail for stabbing someone.

The government needs to get serious on crime, and Bill C-2 is not it.

A motion to adjourn the House under Standing Order 38 deemed to have been moved.